1. You can declare functions/methods normally in Groovy -- the closure attached to a symbol form:

    a = { |a, b| a * b }

    It is very Ruby-ish which is very Smalltalk-ish =)
      posted by Brian McCallister at 06:37:10 PM on January 13, 2004  
  2. Not what I would call "normal"... coming from Python, I would expect that I can do something like

    blah(a, b) {
    return a * b

    (outside of a class declaration), which is illegal. Like I already pointed out in my post, closures make up for this. I guess that syntax is not too bad, but I don't think it's very intuitive either...
      posted by Hans at 08:45:12 PM on January 13, 2004  
  3. We'll probably come up with a function-outside-of-a-class declaration syntax at some point.

    Up to now declaring just a script or declaring a class with a main() method has worked fine.
      posted by James Strachan at 12:11:23 AM on January 14, 2004  
  4. groovy sounds really cool.
    Possibly I really like it because it seem like a {}-based ruby dialect ;).
    And real closures rox.
    Adding function declaration sounds needed to me, cause there are times I don't need a closure and I don't want to write a whole class/mixin for it.
    BTW thanks for groovy!
      posted by lsr at 01:43:31 AM on January 14, 2004  
  5. I also really like Groovy, but as a novice Java programmer, I found http://www.judoscript.com/index.html to be more useful for the projects I was doing. It has some nice data structures built in which make it very easy to manipulate data without having to worry about all the details. No, it doesn't try to emulate Python or Ruby as much as Groovy does, but for someone who is not a Lisp expert, Judoscript was easier to grasp.

    Just a thought,

      posted by Michael Wexler at 08:02:43 AM on January 16, 2004